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, and deal with the long- term deficit. >> those decisions may not happen until 2013. a smaller deal would be temporary, sending congress back to work on the details next year. >> i am not ok with them waiting six months or year kick to get things done. >> jake sherman of "politico" predicts that we will go over the cliff. >> we will not see the government shut down our people not be able to pull money out of banks are things like that. >> still a tough sell for constituency growing tired of the political back-and-forth. >> let's get some things set in place and up and running. >> 1 line of thinking on the hill -- there are many -- if we do go over the cliff that would reset all of the tax issues suchissues. what we do know, the clock is ticking and the waiting game continues, with the house not even scheduled to be in session until sunday afternoon. live of the capitol, steve chenevey wjla. >> will monitor all the negotiations surrounding the fiscal cliff. coming up at 5:30, a closer look at how the country got in this financial situation in the first place. >> we're learning more tonight
to bring down spain's budget deficit. the eu is giving madrid more time to get its deficits in line. reductions in health spending are only part of the total to save, but the symbolic value of cutting medical care is great, and so is public anger. >> the son of pakistan's former prime minister has made his first political address. he told party supporters that he would carry forward his mother's legacy, saying that she had sacrificed her life for democracy. benazir bhutto was killed in a gun and bomb attack during her 2007 campaign. >> in student was brutally gang rape on a bus earlier this month, and the prime minister promised to review rape laws and punishments. demonstrators again took to the streets today, calling on the chief of the police department to step down. the government has also ordered an inquiry into the police handling of the case. meanwhile, the young woman whose case sparked the protests has flown to singapore for treatment. her situation remains critical. and internet where there are no political restrictions or government fire walls and were free discussion is
deficit. >> hello, you're watching "al jazeera" live from doha. here are the top stories now -- crisis in the central african republic. the president calls for international help to fight rebel forces. >> five years after bhutto's assassination. the son makes his debut. >> u.s. lawmakers give thems a last chance to stop the falling off the fiscal cliff. it's no deal has been actually reached. budget cuts and tax hikes will tax place on january the 1st. >> president barack obama returned to washington deeply meyered in another partisan stalemate. but over in the capitol the lower house of congress remains dark to avert the fiscal cliff. it's republican leader will call the session on sunday. the top senate said his branch of congress must take the initiative on a compromise. >> it appears to me the action if there is any is now on the senate and we will have to see if we're able on a bipartisan to move forward. >> but the democrats say there can be no deal without republican concessions on tax increases. >> unless we get a sign-off from the republicans in the house, we can't get anythin
insurance for 2 million americans, and lays the groundwork for further work on both growth and deficit reduction. that's an achievable goal. >> reporter: after the meeting the president came into the briefing room and told reporters constructive but added he was only modestly optimistic that a deal can be reached by the deadline, a sign that there's a very real possibility we're going off the fiscal cliff. at the white house ed henry, fox news. >>> to the edge in virginia now, a spokesperson for idaho republican senator michael crapo says he will not fight his dui charges. senator crapo got pulled over saturday in alexandria. police say he ran a red light. the senator reportedly registered a blood alcohol level of .11. the legal limit in virginia is .08. sources say the senator consulted an attorney. he is due in court january 4th. >>> the edge on d.c. tonight where a bank robbery suspect was spotted on a metro surveillance camera. want you to take a look at the man walking in the foreground of this video. the fbi believes he robbed the suntrust bank on h street northwest on wednesday
. and really, is not interested in a balanced approach to deficit reduction. it's been pretty clear that that's the story we have been telling and it happens to be the truth. >> i understand that two of colleagues proposed cuts to medicare for a hike in the debt ceiling. what do you make of that offer? >> i think one of the things that people don't realize is that it's a dirty little secret. the republicans don't want to cut the things that americans want cut. and they want to cut things that americans don't want cut. poll after poll shown americans do not want deficit reduction done by cutting medicare and medicare and social security. so they propose and saw the same scenario when paul ryan put the budget out and because the american people rejected the kind of draconian cuts that the republicans want to make so, you know, that's a nonstarter in the senate. i think it's a nonstarter with the president. sure can pass the house but going nowhere past that. >> the smaller offer we hear that the president is making at 3:00, to congressional leadership, what kind of offer would you like to see t
the deficit. >> the best thing for my children's future, i have two boys, one 10 years, one ten months and i'm worried about climate change and their future. we need to stop encouraging industry causing this problem, oil industry, gas and coal industries, and need to start encouraging clean energy if we ever to solve it. the very first place to stop is -- start to stop giving these subsidies. it is a no-brainer. vast majority of americans of all parties actually support this perspective. melissa: without affordable energy we have no economy. and that is for sure bad for my children. we have no jobs. we have no industry. no energy. >> why is the fastest growing new source of energy country in wind energy or distributed solar on people's roofs. melissa: because it is completely supported by the government and by my tax dollars. >> not even close as much as --. melissa: we have absolutely no money to spend on these things. do you know what they are made of. >> big oil, gas and coal are much more heavily subsidized. melissa: you and i disagree what a subsidy is, which is fine a debate for anothe
at the deficit of this year and looking at deficit of that size as far as the eye can see and not how to put together a minor package as chuck was talking about. this is the larger deal. the problem you have, obviously, not much time so i think you're likely to see a two-step process here. dealing with the immediate dynamics to, in fact, set up a situation to deal with the larger situation. but ultimately, here, the other element to occur is this is a real negotiating process. i have to say i was disappointed in the president when he used this line, when the speaker said to him, hey, i'm giving you $800 billion. what do i zbhet the president's response was nothing. the white house has to come up with -- >> the response of the white house is times is different. 2011 is 2011. doesn't speaker boehner get less out of a smaller deal? >> no, no. i think he wants a larger deal and going back to august of 2011, they were -- they got very close to the large deal. richard, pushing back in terms of a little bit in terms, look, this is a negotiating process. one side can't say you get nothing after you
for the country is economic growth and reducing unemployment versus 19% for reducing the federal budget deficit. tax reform and to end the washington gridlock is also on the wish list, michelle. >> mine, too. >> thanks, hampton. >>> once again, the big story tonight, no fiscal cliff deal and not even a new offer from the white house. three days to go. president obama asked the senate leaders to try to make a deal. we'll get more on all of it from washington next. so, this board gives me rates for progressive direct and other car insurance companies? yes. but you're progressive, and they're them. yes. but they're here. yes. are you...? there? yes. no. are you them? i'm me. but those rates are for... them. so them are here. yes! you want to run through it again? no, i'm good. you got it? yes. rates for us and them -- now that's progressive. call or click today. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] everyone deserves the gift of all day pain relief. this season, discover aleve. all day pain relief with just two pills. >>> welcome back to "the kudlow report." i'm michelle caruso-cabrera in for larry ku
and a plan for an economic growth and deficit reduction. >> that was president obama talking with four days left in that fiscal cliff deadline saying he's hoping congress will reach a deal on this. if not, he's asking them to bring a package to the floor that will protect middle class mrns. >>> coming up all brand-new at 6:00, american families are now banned from adopting russian children. we'll hear from one local family who calls it a death sentence for thousands of small children. >> before you get to work on your next home repair project, we're warning you about the dangers of trying to do it yourself. now a preview of what's ahead on world news at 6:30. >> the 11th our deal or no -- hour deal or no deal. tonight the track of the storm and where it will hit. >>> the nation is mourning the loss of the man who led allied forces in the gulf war. norman schwarzkopf was credited with winning the war and the public's imagination. >> reporter: in 1990, norman schwarzkopf was a little known general looking ahead to requirement -- retirement. then he led into the face of the u.s. counterattack,
and services among consumers, they are chronically bad at creating a surplus between deficit regions. remember -- if that comes first, suddenly the money lender who later becomes a banker who later becomes wall street plays a hugely significant role in this process. the banker is the conduct of that -- conduit of that recycling mechanism. when they get an increase in proportion as the result of their mediation of that process. the banker is the same thing as a clothes maker. suddenly, there are two things that must have been. 1 -- society will demand that banks are not allowed to go to the wall. then bankers are affectively blanche, free money for themselves. and the whole mechanism breaks down in 2008. in the eurozone, we made a huge error in europe of binding together these economies. this is not the first time these things that happened. it happened in the united states of america. you have disparate economies in the united states of america that are bound together monetarily. what is it that keeps the united states together? you had a great expression in the 1930 -- you had a great depress
, will not be the so- called grand bargain with trillions of dollars of deficit lionction. in fact, jeff, it's not even clear this deal-- again, if there is one-- would stop the across-the-board spending cuts ulr the defense department and peher government programs. it looks like those cuts will go forward. what the president said today is 24 hours from now the senate leaders have to have a plan that deals with income taxes at a rate to be determined later, the threshold of that income-- and some federal benefit. and if they don't reach a deal, he will have his own plan "b." >> if we don't see an agreement hetween the two leaders in the senate, i expect a bill to go on the floor, and i've asked senator reid to do this, put a eill on the floor that makes tare that taxes on middle class families don't go up, that unemployment insurance is still ploylable for two million people, and that lays the dioundwork then for additional deficit reduction and economic growth steps that we can take in ane new year. but let's not miss this deadline. neat's bare minimum that we should be able to get done. >> reporter:
, we, republican are not trying to solve the fiscal cliff. we're trying to solve the debt and deficit. can you explain that? >> sure can. yeah, the white house has been very focused on what do we have to do to just get past the fiscal cliff. let's get over this bump and keep spend and keep going. in the house we're actually trying to solve the debt and deficit. let me illustrate this. we have a trillion dollars in deficit spending last four years. president says let's go back to the clinton levels of taxation. if we went back to the clinton levels of taxation we're still double the highest bush era of deficit spending still because spending was accelerated so much in 2009 and 2010. we're trying to bring the spending levels back down. on the contrary if we just brought the spending levels down to the clinton level spending instead of tax level going up to clinton level of tax it is would solve this. we're trying to solve the debt and deficit. we're trying to say how do we get out of debt. the president is saying let's get past the fiscal cliff and let's keep moving on. that doesn't sol
trillion in deficit reduction. we need to stabilize the debt and work it down is a package of about $4 trillion over ten years. here we are today, december 19, and these law changes which i referenced earlier, the end of the bush era tax cuts, the dreaded sequester, across the board cuts of $1.2 trillion in spending will begin to take effect the first of next year. the good news is the white house and republicans have been trading proposals and at least yesterday appeared to be moving closer together. i would have much preferred that they would be talking about a bigger package than they've discussed but nonetheless to reach a package that would resolve some of these issues would be an important step forward and i think help promote certainty that would be important to our economy. on the revenue side of the equation, i just want to remind you what it's taken in the past to balance the budget. we hear talk on average revenue is in the 18% of g.d.p. range n. getting back to average you will should be sufficient. the problem with that is we have never balanced the budget in the last 50 y
with speaker pelosi, the twin deficit the job and the budget deficit. lori: we don't hear that. we have breaking news. urinalysis is a fascinating. deschutes your analysis is fascinating we want to have you back again. tracy: and 14 major ports that are being threatened to be shut down. we will get the latest. lori: also confidence in the global economy is higher suggesting people are picking up more security. we are back after this. she keeps you guessing. it's part of what you love about her. but your erectile dysfunction - you know, that could be a question of blood flow. cialis tadalafil for daily use helps you be ready anytime the moment's right. you can be more confident in your ability to be ready. and the same cialis is the only daily ed tablet approved to treat ed and symptoms of bph, like needing to go frequently or urgently. tell your doctor about all your medical conditions and medications, and ask if your heart is healthy enough for sexual activity. do not take cialis if you take nitrates for chest pain, ashis may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. do not drink alcohol
it is still confident it can cut its deficit to below the you-mandated level. a german power utility is cutting 1300 jobs as part of a 750 million euro cost-cutting program. >> it is germany's third biggest power company. most of the job losses will be among support and administrative staff. the company has struggled financially from having to shut down to below of its nuclear reactors over safety fears in the wake of the fukushima disaster. >> ratings agency standard and poor's has downgraded cypress again. its sovereign debt already has junk status. now it has gone down two more notches. >> cypress says it needs a decision on an international bailout within days to avoid a default. international monetary fund says talks are unlikely to be concluded this year. it needs the bailout to save its banks, which are heavily exposed to greet debt. well, germans are losing their appetite for spending money. consumer confidence has fallen for the second month in a row according to market research group gfk. >> they polled 2000 german shoppers and on the 0 digit overall economic picture, their
economic position, driving away tourists and investors, stopping growth and pushing up the state deficit. that israel has approved the construction of 940 new homes -- >> israel has approved the construction of 940 new homes on the outskirts of jerusalem. for palestinians, the land as part of east jerusalem, which would serve as the capital of a future state. they say settlements there violate international law, but israel says it is an integral part of jerusalem, which it sees as its own capital. israel has been pressing ahead with plans to expand settlements since the palestinians were granted observer status at the u.n. to russia has put in place the last section of an oil pipeline from eastern siberia to the pacific. that is a link up that is now almost 5,000 kilometers long. >> the massive project is russia's oil fields direct access to key markets in japan, south korea, taiwan, the philippines, and the usa. >> after six years of construction and around 21 billion euros, the pipeline is complete. russia hopes it will be able to expand sales into the u.s. market. it also wants to sel
-class families that are already facing a real financial panic. >> warren buffett could pay off the deficit he wanted to. but it is to be that a deal will happen after january 1. does that make any difference? >> yes, it does. i think some of all this panic is a little bit overwrought. if they don't reach a deal in the next 22 hours or so, then we go into january, and the stakes get so much higher. as you said, people will start feeling immediately the effect of those higher taxes. and that will put the pressure on the congress and president reach a deal. if they don't reach a deal on december 31, which is my prediction, i believe sometime before the end of january, they will reach a deal. but my goodness. one of the things that is frustrating is we have known this day was coming for the last two years. yet here we are, 72 hours away and we don't have a resolution. gregg: this is a contrivance that they are desperately trying to fix. our member the president said in a debate, the debate, he said that i didn't come up with this. then bob woodward came out and said, yes, you did. you know, both
, as well. now, the government has been running huge deficits for a while. >> i still find it fascinating looking at the basis of the actual market. given as you say we're about to enter a recession again. you brought a very, very divided and different government scenario which hopefully will be sorted out. but whether or not the japanese underperformance on the nikkei is going to continue, as well, given the comments we've had about the stimulus will flow into the economy. >> the japanese economy is still or at least the large companies are still very export oriented. if the yen depreciate appreciations, that should improve the chances for japanese companies to gain market share all over the world and that should improve earnings prospect, too, and drive up shares. i see that quite simplistic and there is upside if the yen really tanks. of course, we have to keep the currency movements in mind if you're an international investor, of course, examine japan, of course, has a domestic economy, too, which is likely to remain quite weak. that is the down side, as well. all other things being a
work for future corporation by more economic growth and deficit reduction. >>> with no agreement on the fiscal cliff extended unemployment benefits expire tomorrow for 24,000 unemployed californians. one woman says she's been out of work for two years. she said if it weren't for the long term unemployment benefits she doesn't know how she would get by. >> not being able to put food on table. not being able to pay my bills. >> those individuals and families are on their own to figure out how they're going to have an income until they have go on and have a job again. >> reporter: 1.2 million americans could lose their extended unemployment benefits nationwide. >>> cloudy and cold, all day across the entire bay area. now we're adding some rain showers to the mix. here's a look on live storm tracker 2 radar. the greens indicating light rains on the increase. even if you're covered in the green, things are changing as you can see down toward the san mateo coastline. already reporting of some light rain right around the pacifica region. right around san francisco, right around sausalit
of spending. stuart: look at $1 trillion deficit every year the last four years. >> the budget control act koch $1.5 trillion in spending. stuart: don't you get it? >> over ten year period. [talking over each other] stuart: i insist on this. president obama's plan cuts the deficit, it does not. it restrict future increases in the deficit. it is in the $24 trillion debt in 2015 will only be $20 trillion. [talking over each other] stuart: address the question. [talking over each other] >> let me answer you. we have a fundamental disagreement whether in a situation like this when the economy is of whether the government needs to cut spending. i do not believe it does. you believe it does. we have a fundamental difference how to proceed forward. stuart: what we need more than anything else is to stimulate the private sector and you don't do that with more spending and we need to control long-term entitlement spending. we have to reform entitlement programs. that would fix things. stuart: i agree with you on a ladder but not the former. stuart: where's the president's reform program? >> that pr
that we will see a lot. he committed to trying to do something meaningful in the deficit. >> laura: did you you say meaningful in the deficit. wait a second. i have an audio problem. a what? >> i'm sure brad will correct me when comes up. you will see efforts on immigration reform and gun control and the biggest trade deal in the last generation. the pivot to asia and other foreign policy. >> laura: going to do all this by eg executive decision becaue last time i checkle he still had a republican house. >> stop the extraordinary fiscal cliff negotiations and go back to regular order and pass a real budget and provide an alternative. >> laura: the democrats also might take that advice to pass a budget. >> stop the games and go back to committee process and let paul ryan do his job and have the big debate. >> let's go to you brad on this. i say this to my republican friends. though are all upset he will do executive fiat and rule making. elections have consequences the old cliche quicks in and it is clear that the president s aggressive and he will use every means at his dice posal and if
of more economic growth and deficit reduction. guys, i can hear you over here. i believe such proposal could pass both houses with bipartisan majorities, as long as those leaders allow it to actually come to a vote. if members of the house or the senate want to vote no, they can. but we should let everybody vote. that is the way this is supposed to work. if can you get a majority in the house, then can you get a majority in the senate, then we should be able to pass a bill. so the american people are watching what we do here. obviously their patience is already thin. this is deja vu all over again. america wonder yes it is that in this town for some reason, you can't get stuff done in an organized timetable, why everything always has to wait until the last minute. well, we're now at the last minute. and the american people are not going have any patience for a politically self-inflicted wound to our economy. not right now. the economy's growing but sustaining that trend is going to require elected officials to do their jobs. the housing market is recovering but that could be impacted i
the deficit, the president wants to increase taxes on people earning $250,000 or more but he did show his willingness in negotiates with boehner to raise that number to $400,000. that, however, went nowhere. meanwhile, boehner broke with the gop. it was his so-called plan b offering to raise taxes on people earning more than a million dollars but republicans would not budge on that. they do not want any more taxes. they want to make some cuts in spending and they blame the president for pushing the nation to the brink. that is the latest here at the white house. back to you. >> thank you. >>> what do you think about congress not reaching a deal on the fiscal cliff? do you think it is possible that i compromise will be reached before the deadline. share your comments on our facebook page. just search for fox 5 morning news. no space between fox and the number 5. we may share your comments on air. >> i'm sure you all have a lot to say. we would love to hear t. >>> a big story we are following. norman schwarzkopf has died. the retired general died from come indications of pneumonia. he was g
serious about cutting the defsht and deficit? >> this is, look, this is the greatest irony of this entire discussion. and it is getting lost too much i think in the sometimes in the weeds of the back and forth negotiations. remember, the reason that we're doing this is because this grew out of the 2010 elections and debates over raising debt ceiling that following summer, 2011. the entire purpose was to reduce the size and scope of government in a way responsible to the voters of that midterm election. instead what we're almost certain to see is an expansion of government in the name of reintroducing it. we're likely to see much bigger government long term. we're not likely to deal with entitlement reforms as we need to do. as you suggest the president is pushing some short-term spending increases often in washington turn into long-term spending increases. gregg: but, steve, bill kristol, conservative, you know what, time to throw in the towel. you do not want to get blamed for raising taxes on 98% of americans. >> right. gregg: right? >> look, bill kristol is my boss and editor at "the w
and there will still be an enormous amount of work to do both on deficit reduction and tax reform, not to mention dealing with massive spending cuts which by most accounts are not likely to be involved in the agreement. don't know that for sure, but that's our understanding going in, martin. >> i think it's a safe bet. both sides have different wants. so what's holding these two sides apart when the this he know that so very much is on the line for everyday americans? >> it's a great question. i mean, what's really holding them apart are massive ideological differences. this is about government's role in your life. democrats want more of a social safety net, republicans prioritize lower taxes. and that's what distinguishes the democratic and the republican parties sop so that's what they're fundamentally fighting about. if you break it down to the basic deal points right now, democrats say this smaller deal should include a tax increase for households that make $250,000 and more. an extension of unemployment benefits as you pointed out for about 2 million americans, a delay of those massive spend
, if we want to make a dent in the deficit. i mean this is the choice that is going to be in front of us. if, we have to do four things if we want to reduce the deficit. we have to get more revenue, we have to cut domestic spending, we have to trim and reform the health care programs in particular of medicare and medicaid and we have to cut defense. if we do all four of those things we can make significant down payment getting deficit under control. if we do some of them, the numbers are not there enough to make as much progress as we want. this is where mark and i agree. over next six to nine months we could see substantial progress towards smart fiscal policy in the country if the two parties come together. heather: we'll see what happens. thank you both very much for joining us until monday night. thank you. >> merry christmas. happy new year. [heavy breathing]. gregg: boy, remember that, video from april of 2011. monster tornado tearing through tuscaloosa, alabama, devastating the community and alberta baptist church. ever since then the church's pastor has been fighting insurers and
that the government reduce its deficit as a condition for raising the debt ceiling. both democrats and republicans earth tactics that shut down the government and ultimately cost america its aaa credit rating for the first time in history. but in a last-minute compromise, both sides agree to a trillion dollars in spending cuts up front and another $1.2 trillion in cuts to be decided by a special congressional supercommittee. but a poison pill was attached. if the supercommittee can't reach a deal, automatic across the board cuts known as a sequester would go into effect be at the exact moment when those bush tax cuts extended for two years would expire. so the point is we could have all seen this coming and some of us did. we yelled at the top of our lungs about it but were drowned out by the election. it seems that good governance gets drowned out by continuous elections in america. this time there may be a serious price to pay for it. >> if we go off the fiscal cliff, be will you notice an immediate change to your wallet? we want to get a reality check from stephen moore, a member of the wall st
house released includes this paragraph. seek a bald approach for bringing down the deficit with $3 in cuts for every one dollars in tax reform that contributes to deficit reduction. they said this is consistent with the bipartisan commission approach. yes, he did say that and, yes, we don't have that and, yes, we are approaching this deadline. >> how do you negotiate with someone who said during the campaign over and over three dollars in cuts for are one dollar in revenue and now neither side is going to get everything that they want. but the house republicans have said okay, we'll find $800 billion in revenue but give us the $2.4 trillion in it cuts and he has not been willing to do that. so the last ditch effort the hail hary pass was the house of representatives saying fine let's take nancy pelosi and chuck schumer's bill that they proposed thi summer to extend the tax rates on every household and every small business a million dollars and below, allow them to go up on the million dollars and above which is the current law on january 1, let's do that. that ought to be something
question, if i may, what kind of deficit reduction would this tax be able to provide for the people of france, if you incur 75% tax because you just happen to be a multi-millionaire? >> the thing about france is we're not the united states. we don't have that many multi-millionaires. it was actually really only going to affect 1500 people across the country. so it wasn't going to be very much. it was probably, if you're lucky, at best, $1 million. >> kelly: katherine field, thank you so much for joining us via phone and telling us about the deal in france. thank you. >> heather: back at home, hundreds of firefighters from across the u.s. and canada heading to western new york for second day for the wake and funeral services for these two fallen heros. the two volunteer firefighters were killed in a christmas eve ambush when they responded to a house fire and they were gunned down by 62-year-old william spangler. police also arresting 24-year-old dawn nguyen for illegally purchasing the gun that spangler used in that rampage. now the community of webster is stepping up to make sure t
of deficit reduction as well as dealing with these tax hikes that are set to kick in. that's not what's going to be happening, instead, he's pressing for something smaller just to a deal with stopping those tax hikes from kicking in for americans making $250,000 per year or less. and also trying to make sure that unemployment benefits are extended. listen to what president obama said last night and also listen to what some of the house republican resistance from speaker boehner to his sort of short-term plan here. >> in the next few days, i've asked leaders of congress to work towards a package that prevents a tax hike on middle class americans, protects unemployment insurance for 2 million americans, and lays the groundwork for further work on both growth and deficit reduction. that's an aachievable goal. that can get done in ten days. >> the president's solution of raising tax rates would still leave red ink as far as the eye can see and it would hurt jobs at a time when far too many of our citizens are struggling to find them. >> reporter: but so now, miguel, the plan is to just deal with
on growth and deficit reduction. >> that means taxes go up for some now and spending cut on medicare and other programs are kicked to another date. >> what the president offered so far won't do anything to solve the spending problem and begin to address the crippling debt. >> gallup in early december saying 58% of the public thought we'd avert the fiscal cliff. new poll shows it's dipped to 50% thinking that. the public thinks we are headed for a big problem. >> doug: breaking news from treasury secretary geithner it go about the debt ceiling. are we about to go to default? >> yes and no. secretary gite it go says today that we will hit debt ceiling on december 31, new year's eve. it only buys a couple of months. it proves even if we get through the fiscal cliff situation we are headed for a major showdown next year. >> doug: ed henry traveling with the president in honolulu. what happens if we go over the fiscal cliff? molly henneberg explains it means more money of the of your wallet. >> taxes are going up on everyone immediately. if washington can't come to a deal on the fiscal cl
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is still available for 2 million people on that lays the groundwork for additional deficit reduction on economic growth steps that we can take in the new year but let's not miss this deadline. >> as for the two senate leaders, they spoke shortly after the meeting on sounded a bit more hopeful than the president. >> i think it was a very positive meeting. there was not a lot of hilarity in the meeting. everyone knows how important it is. it's a very serious meeting on it took an extended period of time, as you all know waiting for us. >> mr. president, i would just add -- i share the view of the majority leader, we had a good meeting down at the white house. we are engaged in discussion, the majority leader on myself on the white house >> -- so i'm hopeful. >> the american people are watching what we do here. obviously their patience is already thin. this is deja vu all over again. america wonders why it is that in this town for some reason you can't get stuff done in an organized timetable. why everything always has to wait till the last minute. well, we're now at the last minute and
and deficit reduction. that is an achievable goal. >> today's meeting is the first with the president since november 16. sign for republicans that mr. obama has not really been pushing that hard for a deal. >> we need presidential leadership on in the just taxing rich people. >> three words the president did not use. he did not use the word sequester and he didn't say "debt ceiling" either. he focused most of his remarx on preventing taxes from going up. there are also massive spending cuts coming. no idea how they will avert that. he also did not mention the debt ceiling. earlier they wanted lifting the debt ceiling included. now it's clear it's not in the short-term package that guarantees if they get a short-term deal here, we have major budget battles coming. >> the key to any good negotiation each side has to give up something. near and dear to their heart. what is it, as succinctly as you imagine, both sides have given up? >> both sides say the president started on threshold of tax cut of $250,000. negotiations with boehner he moved to $400,000. not if you have for boehner. he wanted
the ground work for further work on growth and deficit reduction. that's an achievable goal. >> you can see three points, the president wants to protect the middle class tax cuts, forget about extending tax cuts for higher incomes but adds 2 million people about to lose unemployment if there's no deal, and then finally, some small spending cuts but punt the bigger ones like medicare reform, for example, until next year. the president thinks it's achievable. we'll see. >> as soon as the meeting breaks up we'll bring it to you live. if lawmakers cannot reach a deal by january 1 we could feel pain in our first paycheck next year, as in next week. for the millions of americans out of work, unemployment checks would dry up as well and that's just the beginning. with us, kyle harrington, founder and managing partner of harrington capitol management. i guess if santa claus comes at christmas, uncle sam comes as new year's. not a lot of giving and a lot of taking. >> i'll tell you, nice to be with you first. i think people need to really understand the average american needs to understand the rippl
the hardest part. back to the 1980s when the deficits have started to explode, there have been four or five pieces of legislation over the past 30 years dating back to hollings that was the first sequester. the republicans in the house of representatives, they feel they were elected in 2010 to come here and cut spending. dealing with the tax increases, that's a smaller piece. and that seems to be the focus of these talks right now. getting everybody's hands wrapped around the spending component which again the super committee was supposed to take care of last year, they failed. the budget control act, other provisions, all of these things have failed because nobody wants to give. and that's why it is going to be tough to get this through the house of representatives because these republicans are locked in. they say, look, we have cut some spending here this past year. but it was not cut enough. it was not cut deeply enough. they say hold on, we have already cut. that's the longer heads. getting this through the house will be an uphill climb. >> and statistically, when you look at the survey
and deficit reduction. that's an achievable goal. that can get done in ten days. >> yesterday the house speaker john boehner failed to garner enough support from his own party to even hold a vote on his plan to raise taxes for those with an income over $1 million. >> while we may have not been able to get the votes last night, to avert 99.81% of the tax increases, i don't think they weren't taking that out on me. they were dealing with the perception that somebody might accuse them of raising taxes. >> "outfront" tonight, chief white house correspondent jessica yellin and dana bash. ladies, nice to see both of you. jessica, we'll start with you. the president's message was short and sweet and kind of basic. what do you think is different this time around in what he is saying? >> well, what's different is it is less than two weeks until the new year and the president is about to leave for hawaii, and congress is going to be gone for christmas, too, and you know there is no more effective motivator for capitol hill than pressure, and they have it right now. what the president has done tod
on the medium term deficit. >> people on the left this whole idea of comprehensive tax reform unleashing economic growth is nonsense. is that -- >> most of the evidence suggests that there is some benefit from a more sensible tax code. i think in 2013 itself, we have larger problems in the sense of inadequate demand, but i think it's hard to argue that we wouldn't do somewhat better with a more sensible tax code. >> one piece that you've been pushing is a consumption tax as part of this comprehensive tax deal. you know that a lot of economists think it is a good idea. we should tax consumption and get the savings rate up. it seems politically dead on arrival. i think paul voker mentioned it and in response 96 senators passed a sense of the senate resolution that this was an evil idea. >> here's the way i look at it. we're not going to get a consumption tax in this discussion this year and not next spring either. the reason it's inevitable, on the republican side, it is the way to slowly do tax reform. peter's right, reforming the income tax is very, very hard. it is also the only way to
circumstances. things come to ahead in the summer of 2011. they demand they reduce deficit as a condition for raising the debt ceiling. without a deal shs the u.s. would lose its ability to borrow money. republicans and democrats deploy tactics that shut down the government and ultimately cost america its aaa credit raid raiting for the first time in history. in a last-minute compromise, both sides agree to a trillion dollars in spending cuts up front and another $1.2 trillion in cuts to be decided by a special super committee. but a poison pill was attached. if the super committee can't reach a deal, automatic across-the-board cuts known as the sequester would go into effect starting january 2013. at the exact moment when the bush tax cuts extended for two years, if you remember, would expire. the point is we could have all seen this coming. some of us did. we yelled but we were drown out by the election. it seems common sense and good governance get drown out by endless and continuous elections in america. this time there may be a serious price to pay for it. >> keep it here today. at t
it was established. but $90 million is not that much, especially when you consider the federal deficit is $16 trillion and climbing. to retire the debt, every single american would have to pay $50,000. but garcia says you got to start somewhere. especially when washington won't. the partisan bickering has bothered him since 1992, when garcia first wrote his congressman, suggesting a formula to eliminate the debt. the depression-era kid and army vet says he wants to give back to a country that has given him so much, a feeling that is infectious. he knows his money wouldn't avert the fiscal cliff. but that is not the message garcia is sending to congress. >> in order to really solve the $16 trillion national debt, you have to sacrifice. >> reporter: politicians talk about kicking the can down the road. one american that is decided that road has to end. and it might as well be here. kyung lah, cnn, san antonio, texas. >>> you have to love that story. and a lot of us lived this one, the wild ride to election day, 2012. cnn national political correspondent jim acosta has more on the story. >> repo
for additional deficit reduction and economic growth steps we can take in the new year, let's not miss this deadline that. is the bare minimum we should be able to get done. >> we've been looking at the cost of going over the fiscal cliff. we showed you aá](ny calculatoro help you estimate how much your taxes will go up. we'll take a look at how spending cuts will impact californians, in the bay area. >> mark, thank you. >> our other top story is the weather. another storm system hitting parts of the bay area, reservoirs are now at capacity because of the rain. >> here is a live look from our camera. looking north at the bay, and you can see there is cloud cover there. sandhya patel is tracking the storm's path on doppler 7 hd. >> i want to show you where sit raining now. not everyone is seeing moisture reaching the ground. as we take a look, you'll see where the moisture is actually reaching the ground. it's in the north bay. as we look from clover dale towards yu kaia, we're seeing light to moderate rain, eastside road taking you down to street level here, highway 101, there is some
end the year as some kind of victorious guy? if you look at the u.s. deficit is about $4 trillion a year. these tax increases cover about 400 billion. that's 9 or 10%. that's. it the rest of this battle is over entitlements. i mean the democrats could solve this whole thing simply by agreeing to a minor increase, just a two year increase. >> the president did put that on the table and the republicans reject that. the real issue here is there going to be a self-inflicted wound to the economy? the uncertainty here. either way taxes on the wealthy are going up. they'll go up under a deal approved in the last hours which may or may not happen or if it doesn't, there's no deal, then we go over the so-called cliff and the tax goes up there. so either way taxes are going up. >> if the president wanted a deal on entitlements, all he has to do is raise the age from social security to 65 to 67, maybe 68. that solves the entire problem. the president won't deal on that. >> it's a separate issue with its own trust fund. that could be solved fairly easy. you're right about that. it's medicare
then for additional deficit reduction and economic growth steps we can take in the new year, but let's not miss this deadline. that's the bare minimum we should be able to get done. it shouldn't be that heart since democrats and republicans both say they don't want to see taxes go up on middle-class families. i just have to repeat. outside of washington, nobody understands how it is that this seems to be a repeat pattern over and over again. ordinary folks, they do their jobs. they meet deadlines, they sit down and they are discuss things, and then things happen. the notion that our elected leadership can't do the same thing is mind-boggling to them. it needs to stop. so i'm modestly optimistic that an agreement can be achieved. nobody will get 100% of what they want, but let's make sure middle-class families and the american economy, in fact the world economy, aren't adversely impacted. thank you very much, everybody. >>> right now at 6:00, president obama just wrapped up a news conference in which he said he is modestly optimistic a deal can be reached to avoid the fiscal cliff. >>> doug is t
available, and that lays the groundwork then for additional deficit reduction and economic growth steps that we can take in the new year, but let's not miss this deadline. that's the bare minimum we should be able to get done. >>> senate leaders say they hope to reach a compromise that could be presented to lawmakers by sunday, a little more than 24 hours before the deadline. >>> and don't miss "meet the press" on sunday morning. david gregory will interview president obama exclusively just hours before the fiscal cliff deadline. "meet the press" airs at 10:30 on monday morning. >>> police locked up tonight after a brazen crime spree. as jack write benson reports, one of the victims had choice words for those who were arrested. >> reporter: the occupants of this stolen car are -- i'm okay now. i just thank god he didn't hurt me. >> reporter: when sharon gardner first saw this nissan maxima, it was speeding away from the bp gas station with the man who had just stolen her purse in the backseat. >> i was in between vacuuming my car out. i was going from my driver's side to my passengers s
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